CA Immigration Law 834b similar to AZ SB 1070

Posted: May 17, 2010 by Thos003 in Uncategorized
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Calif. penal code pertaining to immigration section 834b similar to Ariz.’s SB 1070

With respect to any such person who is arrested, and suspected of being present in the United States in violation of federal immigration laws, every law enforcement agency shall do the following: (1) Attempt to verify the legal status of such person as a citizen of the United States, an alien lawfully admitted as a permanent resident, an alien lawfully admitted for a temporary period of time or as an alien who is present in the United States in violation of immigration laws. The verification process may include, but shall not be limited to, questioning the person regarding his or her date and place of birth, and entry into the United States, and demanding documentation to indicate his or her legal status.

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=pen&group=00001-01000&file=833-851.90

Sorry I found this funny.  And it’s even funnier that Los Angeles is boycotting Arizona for following suit to California. Better yet, is the fact that everyone is in an uproar over this law when the similar California law has done little to change anything. I don’t believe that the AZ law is going to fix anything. I also don’t think it’s going to make anything worse.  What it has done, from a marketing stand point, is attract everyone’s attention.

Don’t mind me, I’m just the bug guy.

Comments
  1. Michael Hurst says:

    Hey bug guy, you need to check your antennae. The California law requires documentation AFTER a person has been arrested for something else. The Arizona law requires documentation if you look look like George or Jennifer Lopez but are otherwize minding your own business. BIG, BIG difference.

    • thos003 says:

      Mike,

      Thanks for stopping in. The Arizona law has to be of lawful contact. It would be similar to the old seat belt law. While illegal to drive without a seat belt they could not pull you over for not wearing one. But if they pull you over for something else, say speeding, then they can cite you for not wearing a seat belt. So they can only arrest them after initiating contact because the individual was speeding, or robbing a bank.

    • rock the benz says:

      So does the Arizona law. If you are pulled over for speeding you can be asked for your papers? Then, and only then, can they ask for your papers. Gee, don’t you have to show your i.d. when you are picked up by the police or stopped for a vehicle infraction? What makes you different than illegal immigrants? I don’t think the law really says they can ask for your papers if you look like George Lopez do you? Man, I guess you people just like to type!!

    • Pablo Gallegos says:

      FYI…When a police officer pulls you over, you are under arrest. When you sign the ticket, that’s your bail and you agree to pay the fine or show up in court.

    • Pablo Gallegos says:

      Also…I live in Tucson. 63% of all traffic stops in the Tucson/Phoenix metro area; the drive has no license, no auto insurance and naturally registration problems. Until SB1070, the officer could only write a ticket and let them go. Would you like to guess how many offenders ever showed up for their court date?

    • Jose Uribe says:

      Also…I live in Tucson. 63% of all traffic stops in the Tucson/Phoenix metro area; the drive has no license, no auto insurance and naturally registration problems. Until SB1070, the officer could only write a ticket and let them go. Would you like to guess how many offenders ever showed up for their court date?

    • Jon Chapman says:

      IF YOU CAN”T OR WON”T READ THE LAW then please keep you wild ideas to yourself. too many people already believe the kind of lies you put here read it or SHUT UP

  2. Jose says:

    Thanks for clearing that up for M. Hurst, Bug Guy… It’s amazing how many people are misinformed about sb1070. Keep spreading the truth!

  3. Don says:

    Would you guys please read the law an stop listening to the liberal press! Go to Google, search for “Arizona 1070” and click on the PDF link. It is currently the second link down.

    thos003 is right. The law clearly says they can’t stop you because you “look like George or Jennifer Lopez”. The police have to stop you for something else, just like California. Haven’t you every been stopped while driving? What’s the first thing the officer asks for? License, registration and proof of insurance. It’s pretty easy to tell if you aren’t a citizen from those pieces of paper. All visitors to this country must carry with them papers to show they are here legally. That’s federal law. If someone had a license from Germany or France but didn’t have the proper papers saying they are hear legally, they are illegal and will be arrested and deported. The same should apply for citizens of Mexico. It would be racist to treat Mexicans differently.

    • thos003 says:

      Thanks Don. What people don’t understand was the polar opposite that was going on in AZ prior to this law. The police would pull someone over, they wouldn’t have any paper work and the police would simply let them go without ever being able to even approach or ask if they were here legally.

      Ultimately this law is a small bandage on gaping wound. I would love to see the US accept all those that wanted to legally become US citizens. They use to accept them by the boat loads. Why can’t we open our borders and legally pass them through giving them the documents and status of a U.S. citizen?

  4. Pasha says:

    Michael Hurst, are you illiterate or just a flat out retard? go read SB1070, as in the document itself, it spells out rather clearly that asking for identification and verification of citizenship is done upon arrest or probable cause, defined as, being rounded up with day laborers, busted in a drop house, or just freshly nabbed at a checkpoint trying to sneak a bunch of drugs into this country. Pursuit to duty, regardless of appearance or religion, clearly defined in the law. It also has additional penalties to crackdown on human smugglers, their networks, as well as making it a felony crime to *exploit* illegal immigrants, something none of you loud mouth liberal monkeys seem to care about or even acknowledge cause you’re so busy flinging your misinformed feces everywhere. I love all these liberal clowns who have never read the law and still want to pretend they know what it’s about so they can keep crying. And newsflash, most people living in Arizona look like George Lopez including the police. Im not sure about Jennifer Lopez though, seeing as how she’s not a Mexican but in fact from Puerto Rico, Puerto Ricans all being legal US citizens… Who’s the ignorant moron now? *points at Michael Hurst and other imbecilles like him*

  5. Douglas A Lightsey ( Trinity) says:

    California and Los Angeles are wacked. to much Drugs and Phoney People.
    I think people of the USA should Boycott Ca and LA , The people ( Taxpayers) should move to AZ. Taxes are cheaper, Homes are cheaper, Apts are cheaper. By the way the weather is Beautiful and im sitting in the pool typing this letter. and my rent is only 400.00, AZ Rules.

  6. Joyce says:

    Do any of you know what the word illegal means??? It means that if you are not in the United States as a tax paying citizen. You need to go back to whatever country you came from and enter the legally! We need to solve the issue of drop houses….these people are victims just looking for a better life. They do not deserve to die in the desert as a result of this.

    On the other hand, We the taxpayers should not have to give them free healthcare either. If we were to go to Mexico or any other country and “Demand our rights” we would be laughed at and then thrown in jail…..

  7. Gary says:

    Amendment X

    The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

    What this means is if the Federal government is not executing its powers derived from the Constitution, it is incumbent upon each state to enforce said laws. Arizona has done nothing outside of the US Constitution, and any law suit brought will be of no avail. Rather than utilizing funds to secure the border, our current administration is suing those who it’s supposed to protect.

    What a joke.

    • thos003 says:

      What? Who reads the constitution these days?

      • Gary says:

        Good point. You know the Constitution is ‘a living document’, and with any living thing, it too must some day die I guess.

      • thos003 says:

        I dread that day, but given the way it is trampled on today… I fear that my sarcasm rings all too true. Didn’t Shakespeare say something like “Tragedy + Time = Comedy”.

        Unfortunately what I said in jest would prove the opposite, Comedy + Time = Tragedy.

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